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Question by Miguel Barcelona, Spain. George Garzone. I've seen that you use to practice Garzone triads quite a lot. I would like to know more about this device.
My understanding is that it consists in playing different triads in non-repeating inversions and approaching them by chromatic steps up or down. It seems that in this way you get a high degree of "outness" but because of the inner structure of triads there's a certain coherence to the whole thing.
So, can you develop a little about the whole Garzone triads thing? What are they, how do you apply them and how can you practice them? Indeed, I've been working on Garzone's thing for many months in row now. It has definitely helped my hearing abilities and improvisations. I'm actually surprised at the "work vs progress" ratio that I've achieved : I thought it would take more time to show up in my playing I guess Garzone's ideas and concepts just suit me like a glove.
Works well on guitar too! Here's a great review of the 2 DVD set for the curious. Triads played in this fashion have a lot of forward motion and resolve often to the chord-tones of the moment. Simply by "luck", the odds are in favor of resolving these ambiguous lines!
To avoid repetition and sound as random as possible is easy : within the major third, do not repeat de same interval consecutively in the same direction! Here's what I think, in point form, of the TCA. I'm speaking only for myself here. Want to know who's writing these lines? Here's a little about me That's all I got so far. I hope it helps you Miguel and other visitors , to understand the Triadic Chromatic Approach and how I'm practicing it. I own this product and the discussions on this page are for educational purpose only.
In fact, I encourage you to get your copy of the 2-DVD set as it is one of the finest "jazz education" product available on the market. I have practiced diligently the exercises prescribed by Mr. Garzone on the DVD and I simply would like to share my thoughts, feelings, musical ideas and progress I've made using the approach.
Nov 21, Perhaps by: Marc-Andre Seguin admin. Perhaps it's a little too "early" for you. What's great for beginners is you'll be forced to learn triads very well to apply the Garzone thing. Even if you spend only a week on the major triad, you'll get a lot out of it if you're a complete beginner. It should be completely new material, so you'll make strides fast. Nov 19, Too Early? I still consider myself a beginner jazz guitarist. Should I wait till later to work on this or try doing it now?
Apr 12, The fool who missed the point. Stumbled upon a Chris Crocco vid on youtube. He has some repeated lines that have come from this. That would lead me to believe there are some patterns that he is plugging in. I do not have the DVD.
So what you wrote here is very valuable information for me. Thank you. I am the fool who missed the point. I read much info on the internets and compiled an approach that made some sense for me. I started out mixing triads. I practice over standards. I use them at gigs.
Cats are always turning their ears with a smile on their face in a positive way. I will now incorporate your proper method. I look forward to the new discoveries and freedom the approach will yield. Is it OK to start on a diminished triad from the third of a dom 7th like I normally would? Or a minor triad from the 5th to get an implied 9th chord?
I love new sounds. Wonderful website! He draws from his experience both as a professional jazz guitarist and professional jazz teacher to help thousands of people from all around the world learn the craft of jazz guitar. Drop 2 Challenge! Join 20, guitarists and get the latest jazz guitar tutorials delivered to your inbox. Blog About Reviews. Thanks a lot for your time and effort with this wonderful page that is helping me so much.
What is the Triadic Chromatic Approach? The TCA is, first and foremost, a kind of "ear training" for me see this ear training article. It's not just another tool to sound "out" or "free". The TCA made me discover new areas of the fretboard and different fingerings for triads.
I cannot, will not and won't even try to apply TCA directly "note-for-note" in my improvisations. I don't see the point in doing so. I personally work hard at the TCA simply to open my ears and fingers to different sounds and new possibilities It's more of a practice tool than a literal way of playing. I know some people have analyzed Garzone's solos only to find "incorrect" applications of the TCA!
The lines created with the TCA work especially well in deep, swinging, solid rhythms. George's time and rhythms are so strong that I believe that's why the TCA sounds so good. My whole playing and hearing in general started to change after only one or two weeks of working at the TCA.
The TCA is guitar friendly. Garzone triads and lines sound good on the lowest strings. I've never really liked the sound of the low register on the guitar The TCA will sound different from instrument to instrument and that's ok. It should also sound different from player to player even if they play the same instrument! I've been practicing the TCA with a metronome at slow tempos in various subdivisions of the beat: quarter notes, eight notes, triplets etc.
I've been practicing the TCA with playalongs usually slow blues. It's hard. I worked approximately six months at the major triads. I've just recently started on the minors. The bright sound of the major triads is just way easier to hear in random inversions! Some Tips Some things to keep in mind: Just "T" : Start with just major triads.
Also, when you move on, don't mix triads types. Practice the major with the major, the minor with the minor, etc. It helps you to "pre hear" the next few notes of the line I even tried this : metronome set at 60 and I would perceive each click as a triplet. Sing along with your playing for guitarists, pianists and bassists. It's ok if you make mistakes. Try to "sing what you play" AND "play what you sing". The TCA will just sound much more lyrical to you and others!
Play all the TCA stuff with a good, full sound on your instrument in every register. Notice anything different? Whenever you can, ask for a colleague to play a drone on piano or guitar while you practice the TCA. Just an open "C G" fifth will do.
Please feel free leave comments and questions at the bottom of the page. Remember : one triad at a time! Note from Webmaster : Yes, you could start triads in this way if you like.
The Music of George Garzone & the Triadic Chromatic Approach
Garzone’s thing… triads, chromaticism and “randomnivity”